Sinister Fate on MK Ultrasound Podcast

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Join hosts Alex Zander and Jessica Edwards on the MK Ultrasound Podcast as they unleash Chicago shock rock legends Sinister Fate—vocalist David Bates and bassist The Omen—for a no-holds-barred chat on their latest EP ‘Profit of Doom.’ Dive into the band’s 2006 origins, macabre mission to ‘keep the dead awake,’ and gritty tales from tours with Ministry and Combichrist, plus Whiskey A Go-Go triumphs. Unpack tracks like ‘Scars of the Monster’ and the politically sly ‘beLIEve,’ with live playback riffs, KISS trivia showdowns, and rants on the dying art of physical vinyl. From horror con headliners to drummer woes, this episode is pure underground fire for metalheads craving real talk over polished promo. Stream the full transcript, playlist, and vibes now—fear the fate, embrace the doom. #MKUltrasoundPodcast #SinisterFate

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with hosts Alex Zander and Jessica Edwards

”Emerging from the darkest realms of Chicago, Sinister Fate have been terrifying the US Midwest since 2006. David Bates (vocals), Leo Garcia (guitar), and The Omen (bass) combine their love for the macabre and freakshow aesthetics, with an intense shock rock/ classic metal sound, to create Sinister Fate’s ghastly exhibition. Their mission statement: to keep the dead awake, and the living in fear…

Since shambling onto the music scene, Sinister Fate have toured all over the United States, playing such iconic venues as The Whiskey A Go-Go, House of Blues, The Metro, and Double Door, and headlining The Ride for Dime. The band have performed at Chicago’s Open Air Fest, Days of the Dead Horror conventions, and as staples at Breaking Fate Entertainment’s Indie and Horror Film Festivals. They have shared stages with a who’s who of rock, metal, and industrial music, including Ministry, My Life With Thrill Kill Kult, Combichrist, Hanzel Und Gretyl, and Psyclon Nine, to name a few.

Including albums and EPs, Profit of Doom is the band’s seventh studio release overall. Previously, Sinister Fate have released the studio albums Hellbound (2013) and Broken Minds, Damaged Hearts (2020), and the live mini-album, Live Ruin (2022), recorded at Hollywood’s legendary Whiskey-a-Go Go. Their EP releases meanwhile include Grave New World (2008) and Blood Pact (2016), and the rarities collection, Remnants from the Crypt (2019). Sinister Fate’s music also graces the soundtracks to Ron Fitzgerald’s Dark Realm, and the indie horror shorts, Bacon, and Balloon Feast.

Playlist:
“Scars of the Monster”
“beLIEve”
“Meet Mister Scratch”
“My Name is Alex” (Dr. Thunderpussy)
“Dindu Nuffin'” (Dr. Thunderpussy)
“Eat The Devils Pussy” (Dr. Thunderpussy)

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It’s Black Friday was 2 days ago, yesterday was. This is the fairies. Yesterday was shop local Saturday and According to him Monday is muli Monday what’s what’s today? Sinner Sunday. You’re in the right place. OK, All right. Got a dynamite show here. I’ve got two members of Sinister Fate. Some locals have been around for quite a while. Yeah, we have, actually. So actually, or unfortunately, I don’t know. I haven’t decided yet. Jessica Edwards sitting in again as. And she’s crossed from winning on with her podcast and radio show or video show. Whatever You Do. Yes, yes, we are playing this live. Well, trying to play it live, actually, right now I’m trying. But it will be on NGR Music TV over on ngrmusic.com. radio, New Groovin rhythms, whatever you wanna call it. Yeah, getting the videos going. Well, now, I’ve known sinister fate since radio days. And so how do you go back? Yeah. Give me a little history here. I was trying to remember. Was it Myspace? I wanna say it was Myspace, Yeah. I’m gonna go up Myspace. Gentlemen, would you like to introduce yourselves first before we jump in? David Bates, Singer. Omen bass player, backing vocals. Is it going through? No idea. OK. I think the cables, There you go. Messed up. Just gotta be careful with cats. Yeah, Right. Yeah. And so you’re the bass player? Yeah, he’s the bass player. Bass player slapping the bass. So, yeah, give me the background on this. I, like I said, I think it was Myspace. It was back when I was getting radio started. So that’s where I started off with meeting people was on Myspace. I said, hey, Myspace, people want to share music. Maybe they’ll want to share music with me. So that’s how we got going. I met them and said hey, let’s hook each other up, do some cross promotion and that’s how it works. That’s the name of the game. Our Myspace is still actually like it’s up. I mean, it’s not really working. I am so so janky because my my my page is down. My Ultra Vixen’s page is still there without the text but it’s just the pictures. My personal page with all the great stories that I wrote back before there was a Facebook. All that shit’s gone. They took that **** down without telling any of us. Well, so much of it got broken through, like the years and changes. It’s so, it’s so like even go on. It’s so it’s so bad, right? Myspace was a lot of fun. It makes me wonder if it’s more, much more fun than Facebook. Yeah, Yeah, it was. I know we need to find time. Everyone learned to hack just using Myspace. So when you’re doing coding and making your Myspace all cool and **** you felt all, you felt like a hacker. You felt cool. Yeah, yeah. I don’t even know if I’m still on there. We’ll have to check her if we’re still here. I’m just *. Some of the stories I lost and then after that I got my MDMK ultra page got hacked a couple years ago and I lost everything, everything. And so for those of you listening who have websites, don’t use a company in India. You know what? It doesn’t matter. I’ve been using some of the best companies for so long. I had a malware attack recently on my website. I’ve had to do server moves and I had to hire a whole security. Like I it’s, it’s a lot and you know what it’s going. It’s happening to all the major companies. So yeah, well, so bad. The cloud flare thing recently. And do you know about that? My bank got hit by that. Yes. Yeah, that’s a mess. So I’ve been paying thousands of dollars to fix my freaking website. So here here’s a funny, fun things. Running social networking websites. Funny story is as everybody knows listens to this show or reads my **** on the on the MKL show. Website. I am a huge huge friend and fan of the Electric Hellfire Club and I ran into this guy. In Tampa, FL at the venue and then I’m thinking, wait a minute, I know you’re probably. William, I just did this piece on you guys in September for your new EP, And then I remember her. I’m like, and I’m talking to you like, Oh yeah, I just remember something else, you know? Jessica Edwards. So I thought, let’s just do this show after Thanksgiving. Yeah, that’s what we’re doing. And ice and chill, dude, what a great night that was in Florida. Fun. It was really fun. I dug that place. The deal. First of all, you realize how expensive we are in Chicago when you go out of state or out of city. I’m down there. I’m at a 16 ounce Outlaw Beer to Charlotte Jack for 10 bucks. Yeah, Jesus, their alcohol is stupid cheap. Really, ’cause I go to, I always expecting it like, yeah, I go to Miami. It’s not cheap there. Well, that’s Miami, not cheap there. Yeah, that’s Miami. But I was flying back with a hangover. Oh, it’s not fun. I never get my chance to get hungover. That’s why they sell drinks on the plane. Just keep drinking. Hell, I flew out there. Get through it. Did you come back for a throw kill the next night? I tried to but my flight got so delayed. Like by the time I got home by like maybe about 839 o’clock. We’re just coming in for the show and then coming back. Yeah, like Alice Dolly’s being dumb and being like, I could, I could do this. No, No, I can’t. What are you, 20? No. No, I thought I could. Well, it didn’t. The getting down part is easy. It’s the getting up part that’s true. Getting out of Tampa is a because then they do everything to me and I’ve got an artificial hip. But I do the X-ray thing. They still, like, go through all my **** rubbing my balls, Took their hands up. My. I’m not even joking, man. I hear the TSA is coming up with new rules for 2026. You better check them out. Oh, great. Yeah. And I just found out you need the new REAL ID, so I just. Yeah, I’m waiting for it. That’s waiting for it. Yeah. You’re not gonna be able to fly without it. Or a passport. Yeah, passport. I don’t have a passport Passport card, that’s the way to do it. Works too, same thing. I guess that we should get to the music, but I want to talk a little bit more about the show man. So his new band is good. I was He’s always been good about putting good musicians together. But then I ran into. Jay Goode, Who? Who’s the new drummer? I’m like, wait a minute, Why don’t we know you from. He goes to me. He says you’re Alex. I’ve heard Thomas has told me great stories about you. You’ve seen one of them. Yeah. Yeah. He says he’s, you know, he’s crazy and like. Well, yeah. And it was just, it was amazing. I, I was running into people from Columbus, OH, from Indianapolis. I mean, when you were doing like, when was when was the last time they played? December 2016. So it’s, you know, it’s been almost 10 years. So like something like that. Like I was asked if I was going, I was like him and Hall and I was like, you know what? I could afford it, so I’m like I’m going. So I like that. It was like a sort of like a last minute I’m like, **** I’m just gonna go go to the show and then I’m go to TKK after and I didn’t work. At least my photographer I I sent a photographer there so that was covered, although I haven’t seen the photos yet. That it is what it is. Your new record, your new EP, we wrote up wrote it up back in September and there’s you sent ME3 songs and we’re going to kick one off right now. Scars and the Monster. Do you want to give me a little bit of background on this too? No, I think, I think the lyrics speak for themselves. I don’t feel like no story telling. Is that right? All right, and you’re listening to the MK Ultrasound podcast. Have a Kitty. I just know there’s something dark in me. Not hired. Certainly I don’t talk about it, but it’s there.

Language language. Well, someone think of the children. This show, trust me, the kid, all the kids have Internet now on their phone. They’ve, they’re already looking at things. They should. Oh, man, I did when I was that age, you know, But it wasn’t, you know, smartphones. It was magazines and **** and yeah, movies that I shouldn’t be watching. That’s according to who? I mean, let’s be real, we grew up in the 80s. Like everything that was R rated turned into a toy line at some point. Yeah, And they wonder why we’re so ****** *. Like everything that was R rated they turned into a cartoon. Toxic avenger. Rambo. swamp thing. RoboCop, like these are a few of my favorite things. I’m not arguing it, I’m just making the point. Yeah, make a version of that for Christmas. There we go for our Christmas episode. Like a dirty version of the Favorite Thing song. Well, I got the bend right. We’re looking for special Christmas stuff. Yeah, like original material. I do a dirty Christmas show every year and. Starting to run out of material. I’m digging in like like the videotape I showed you of Hellfire on there. There’s a band from the South Side. They were called Chainsaw Johnny. Just they did drunk court. It was like drunk punk music and. I met them at the Expo of the Extreme, the first one, and Richter was there with with Boyd Rice which was awesome as I had my own table and it was the first Expo. The extreme was incredible. And. This band comes up to me and the guy’s got a bandage on his head. He says, I hear you’re doing this show, this show, this your show Alcoholiday in Muncie, IN. Like, yeah. And like, we’d like to play it like, well, I’ve already got the bands booked. I can’t pay. They pay us some beer. OK, I like you guys, but here’s one rule you got to write a song about. Drinking at Christmas and they did a song called I’m getting drunk for Christmas and I we did a made a video for it. But anyway, that’s that Jessica, good idea. But let’s talk about a little bit about your background and your new new. The Prophet of Doom. Yeah. So who wants to start here? You, you founded the band you started. It’s always the singer who gets thrown under the bus for that, you know, I know how that feels. Yeah, it’s, we put it out last September, put on a couple of music videos from, from me, Mr. Scratch for Believe. Believe is another one. It’s sort of a politically sort of album a little bit like, I don’t know, it’s as close as I will get comfortably to political stuff because I just don’t, I don’t lie with it in general. Got it. And I’m not, I’m not a fan of either either side. You know, everybody. The other whole thing of left wing, right wing, it’s the same Birdman. We are not in the in the financial demographic to be cared about. So like I, you know, when stuff happens in politics and like my guy got shot or this or it’s like we don’t have my guy. This is not sports. We don’t have my guy, my guy, this. Like this is like some of these politicians, like, dude, they don’t care. They really don’t. So this is about as close as I, you know, just by seeing every lay of the land and just my, my sort of my response and my tongue in cheek response towards it. So that’s sort of the the vibe of the album. And how do people get a hold of this thing? You get on band Camp and like, we’re on all you know, bands. YouTube, Band Camp, YouTube, Myspace. Space. . Myspace. Yeah, yeah. . Yeah. Redtube. All the streaming sites weren’t everything. So at this point now, so just, you know, you just find it and then the editor shows we saw the physical CD still like, I still believe in physical. Yeah, yeah, 100%. And I still, you know, I still collect DVD’s and CDs and records and **** and yeah, I’ll scoping out your ****. Yeah, yeah, let’s check it out. So the Batman stuff. I still I, I still buy vinyl and I want the purple. I was going back to the Hellfire Club concert and then I want to talk more about your band, but. I didn’t realize that Cleopatra wasn’t going to do a purple vinyl of Kiss the Goat and I was really upset after, you know, the orange came out and I’ve got the original orange from 95 of how the Halloween remix and everybody that’s ever been in the band has signed it. This is That is sweet. I was really like, hoping for Kiss to go down front. I love that album so much. And Thomas knows it. It, it means it’s, it’s to me the same as Bloody Kisses, which came out like Type O Negative, the same around the same time. Oh yeah, around the same time. And then they were all friends. That’s honestly how I found Hellfire Club was because of typo. That’s that’s really how I discovered them. Just like, you know, Peter named them his burn baby burned his favorite record of that year. That sounds about right. Yeah, that sounds right. But. Yeah, that’s a just seeing those bands like that, a lot of the band, a lot of those bands that tour together, Hellfire Club, Typo, Pantera, even like Danza, White Zombie, like when you had there, there’s like I, they exposed me to a lot of different **** and I * dug it. Yeah, it was. They would talk about something and we’re like, I guess we’re all nerds here. They were like, OK, you’re probably like, I wanna go check, see what this band sounds like. And this is before Internet. Yeah, you go to the store. Once Upon a time there, there was something though about like, you know, ’cause I’ve been collecting vinyl since I was 13, so just going in and just randomly looking and you know, you’d spend hours digging through. Piles I feel it’s a better way to discover music than how to discover music. Now I I would just go to the ball and then we had like 3 record stores and I would go to the import section 1st and then the independent section and I would read lighter notes. And that’s why I learned about the Dead Kennedys *. Fear somebody’s really, really great punk bands because they didn’t have major labels. So you that was always interested in. OK, what’s weird? And then of course, Adam Ant rocks. But yeah. In the record store, I don’t know. I’m not a big fan of reckless here. It’s like. Reckless Records used to be pretty awesome. I don’t know what’s 1 you’re talking about. Chris Connelly works at the one in Wicker in Ministry, but there’s one in Lincoln Park and I just. They’re that kind of record store that’s more like Along that Movie with John Cusack. Yes. Were there like music snobs and we don’t know anything, but the record strike I really like is in Lincoln Square, it’s called. Planet of Sound, OK, I’m familiar with that. I haven’t stopped in that one yet. It’s amazing. I found Kim Falley records there. Nice. Laurie’s, Planet of Sound and I I’ve only found two stories where I can find Kim Fallon music. One was there. And the other was this record store in Evanston. But I don’t want to pay $100 for a Kim Valley. But it’s, you know, there are the stores are out there that is not as easy to find. So all all your releases, are they physically you buy them all physical. We have them all on TV and tell people how do you buy them and just come to our show. Come to our shows and you got a show coming up. We have nothing coming up right now. We’re we’re in a, we’re in a rebuilding process yet again. I think I’ve heard that from a lot of bands. I’m in that too right now. So I get it. It’s kind of let’s like regroup and get ready for next year. Yeah, but you need to let me know cuz I got new Kramer equipment. I can do a good show. Yeah, let’s get you on. I mean, part of it right now too. Especially First off, look at the weather outside. I mean, what, 7 inches yesterday? What? She said. Yeah. Zynga. Ohh I was 676767 ohh God. Oh God. I’ve been fighting about that with my teenagers, so I feel bad that I have to Google that and be like, what the **** are they talking about? That was me. But then I go to Florida and people know I’m like, I just make, but the kids don’t even know what they’re talking about. I’ve never wanted to beat a kid so bad in my life. Right. When you came to the right show. Jeez, some of the terms and the words I’m just like what? Google? What the **** does that mean? Yeah, but yeah, my poor little, you said it again. My poor little sports car is trapped. I got moved cuz somebody was like, hey. Want me to switch the cars so you don’t have to worry about blah, blah, blah. And now it’s like 900 miles away in like piles of snow. I can’t get it out. I was, I’m like, I have to take the ugly car today. Hey, she had to park in the back once and. You had a nice little car, but you’re coming up my back stairs and your heels. Yeah, You know, every time I look on the news and somebody gets shot, it looks just like the back of your apartments. Looks like the Alexander’s place. What the going on over there? It all looks the same to me though. But it it well, watch Chicago PD, Chicago Fire, they all look the same. These are talking about a TV show. I’m talking about the news. Well, they film shows here, you know. Yeah, I know, I know movies. Actually, I maybe, well, I had potential to maybe go on Chicago Fire. We’ll see. I’ve never watched that show. And the shy, but the shy, I would have been like the only. Person that looked like me in the whole show, I think I’ve been in the background of a couple of them. Just because you’d be the rape victim on the show. Oh my God, probably no. I got I got in the bear in the last season. That was . I was going to try and go back again. It’s I think filming in. March for the next season, so fingers crossed. Maybe I’ll go do that again. I know this is going to get a lot more fun. I want to kick off. Well, the video that we posted on on the MK Ultra Magazine website was for Believe. Good song and I really love how you spelled it. Thank you. I’m a fan of that kind of ****. That sounds like me and you and Al Jorgenson. We do that kind of thing. We’re, you know, we’re spelling **** like that. I know Manson, I’m going to be alive. Manson heading on a shirt once. That’s where like it’s the inspiration come. And I always dug that and I was like, I want to I want to take that and do my own take my own. Interpretation of it. And that’s what I feel like when you look at religion or even politics at right, like right now, it’s it’s all a * lie. That’s really what it is, right? And so do you have anything else you want to say about this song? You should go watch our video on YouTube. And follow and subscribe and like and all that you can share with share, share with your friends. Sharing is caring and share with people you don’t like too. That’s fine. This is sinister fate on the there’s some people. Hey, range bait works. That’s fine.

All right, that’s what artificial intelligence does to you, and your friends are bored. So Tom Trotter made that song about me. And so you know about the Delta Health discount there. Need the devil’s and all that. These guys don’t know that story. OK, OK. Wait, story time. Ever since back in the days of Photoshop, people are always like ** with me. And I think it’s funny, like that picture of my face on. On Machete. I think people just * it’s like with AI now it’s getting crazier for sure and I can’t I can’t get into the baby Jesus stuff yet so I don’t even know if I can talk about that in the book yeah, I’m not ready for that. But the thing you heard about the Judy, I bet you got a big and okay, so. We were leaving. It was Tom Trotter, the guy that did this song. We had a band called Doctor Thunder . He was a Blues band. It was just guys jamming and people just come watch us jam and we were just a crazy. Makes I mean, none of us look like we belong to hang together, but we we did. So we were like misfits and like everybody was different. And he had a yuppie, he had a hippie, he had the goth guy, he had a big fat Mike. You know, everybody had their own thing, but somehow it worked. So running with these guys and we formed an anti fraternity called the Delta Helter Skelter. And but one night we’re coming back from it was the night of living dead 2020 fifth anniversary event in Pittsburgh outside of the mall where they filmed on. And I didn’t even know that Tom Savini lived in my * neighborhood at the time in Pittsburgh. And so, yeah, this **** it it gets anyway, it’s a three day event. And back then you didn’t have to pay for autographs used to the line. You got to say something, whatever the **** you wanted. Adam West was there. I mean, it was, it was huge. Romero, Savini, everybody that was involved in the making of Night of Living Dead was there. The guys from Dawn were there. So I’m like lit and we’re coming back to this bar that I worked at in Pittsburgh and I combusted through the door with my friends and I’m just like, I don’t have to work. I know it’s going to be free drinks tonight. And so we just had a great day at the convention. It was day 2 day three I don’t know which day it was but it was end of a really good day and I walk in and Judy sit at the bar and my friend Seth this Jewish guy hung out with had a thing for her and I just walked out. I don’t know why I said this like hey Judy I bet you got a big *. They’ve never let me live that down. And at the end of that song, at the end of that song, you hear, you hear him saying my first Jew. And that was like when I. I think that she was my first second. Anyway, you were talking about the **** ** **** girl. Like what? I want to suck **** ***. Oh, that Jew. Different Jewish girl. No, she said. I want to blow you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that’s right. That’s right. Quote wrong. That would be wrong. That sounds dirty. So if you’re ever on my Facebook page, you see videos of me hold a big cat or something like this. Guys do his songs like he did a a sing me a Pixar like, oh, Alex was this great rock’n’roll writer. Listen a lot of music. And then he met Judy the Big *****. I don’t know why, Judy, but you got a big ***** first thing that came to mind. That’s not what you want to say to a girl. She wasn’t the one, but Seth liked her and I ended up with. The other Jewish girl like the Jewish girl. Yeah, OK. I want to blow you, girl. No, that was in Columbus, OH, talking about Pittsburgh. I’m sorry. It’s funny. Yeah. I want to blow you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it’s funny because I’ve been listening back to old episodes and, like, I don’t always. And I do it in my own radio shows, too. I don’t register what people are saying the first time, and then I listen to it back and I was like, oh, **** I missed that altogether. That’s why I watched Landman 3 times. Every time there’s a new land man on I’ve watched at least three times because it always misses something funny in it. But yeah, Are you ready to play the game? Yeah, they’re 100. City Tour has met with controversy reminiscent of the 60s. Might be the devil or it might be the Lord that you gotta have to serve. Seriously. There were picket lines in Nashville, a record-breaking protest in Little Rock, a standing room only City Council meeting in Corpus Christi, and headlines all over the country, Minneapolis, Dubuque, Chattanooga and Bismarck, ND. The protesters are mainly religious groups who have been trying unsuccessfully to get KISS concerts stopped because they say KISS promotes the worship of Satan. All the ways that the enemy is coming in to try to engulf the mind. Teenagers and win them over. You know, it’s, it’s funny you think about this **** happening in 82. They weren’t even ready for Marilyn Manson. No, no, I wasn’t ready for Marilyn Manson. I got a little bit. I got taken to a show and dragged into the pit unwillingly. Like that was some crazy **** man. Manson in the day. Yeah, I mean, those guys would get way ** in performing, and they were, and they were good. Oh yeah, I’m pretty sure. I, I don’t know if I was seeing what I was seeing, but I’m pretty sure he stuck a microphone in a girl’s and sang out of it. Oh, I believe it. I believe that. Yeah. That was pretty ** crazy. That’s actually. Well, let’s start with you. Answer, ask the first question and it will go around and then you see who loses. All right, let’s see here and kiss the Satanic Knights of Satan’s service. Of course, right? They have their most evil man on earth. What were the number of shows? That’s why I picked it on the Destroyer tour. Wow, that’s 76, let me say. 90. No. Is that close? No, but it was funny because you said 76, you’re being dyslexic at 67. You *? 6767. Where’s a baseball bat? Hour back in it. Careful. How many shows? 6 they did 67 shows, 67 is on the destroyer. Wow that is the whole reason why you chose that card. I didn’t even notice. All right, Dave. Nice. All right. This should probably be an easy one. Who played harmonica on Deuce on Kiss My ***? Oh, that would have been the the great Stevie Wonder. Correct, Sir, Correct. Wow. And I’ve got that, a red vinyl. Nice. All right, I’m gonna I’m gonna start off with an easy one, only because I actually have a conspiracy theory on this that I’ll talk to you about afterwards, but you’ll love hearing this one. Who are the opening bands for Kiss on the farewell tour in 2000? I saw that tour. I didn’t think I. Oh. Ted Nugent, played right, is one of them. I was there but. The farewell that can the last time when Ace. Oh, and Peter for that matter, Who cares a **** about him? No, I I don’t know who’s who else. Skid Row. Oh, Skidmark played on that one, huh? Yeah. So I’m like. You know what? Half and half is a prostitution term too, right? And we’re filming. This is * great. Go ahead. Alright, alright, let’s see. I haven’t looked at. I wish I would. It’s a good mark. Umm, how old is the guy in the KISS song going blind? Oh, 93, she’s 16. I think I’m going blind. 93, she’s 16. And he also wrote Christine 16. Wait, so wait, is this? I’m not even gonna say. Go ahead. Never mind. What? He’s 93. She’s 16. Yeah. Things Going blind. That’s a song. I’m 93G. You’re 16. So it’s like Sharia law. He didn’t want me to say it. It was the 70s and 80s. Yeah, right. Like should be Jimmy Page had a girl. Yeah, Jimmy Page and Teddy had a girl’s emancipated, so they could be with him on the road. Hey Dave, who is the only member of KISS to have never changed his name? **** give me a minute. I mean the full name or that’s the first or last name. Who’s the only member of KISS to have never changed his name? Well, the only one that never changes first name was Paul Stanley. But there was pub, Pub Ace was Paul. So wait a minute. So there was like, OK. Jean, Paul. Ace, Peter. Vinnie Vincent, Mark St. John, Bruce Bruce Kulick. Yes. I was thinking the same thing, like I’m like, I gotta go through this and like it’s gotta be marry what what’s happening? And you know, the the the only lineup of kiss there was all Jews was revenge. It was like Eric Singer. I think we talked about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I Oh yeah, I have more things, but later, later. That’s just too easy. And that was such a good album too. Like Revenge. Oh yeah, I liked it. It’s their like, best album when they’re on mass,.. Good Domino God gave rock’n’roll to you. Yeah, * good **** man. Oh yeah. Unholy. Oh yeah, I just want to. I still think that was the best one without makeup. Revenge without makeup. Yeah. That was the one that I don’t know, man. Like they they were they were going for that like metal look. Even Paul looks sort of intimidating. I mean, yeah, his leather sleeves were rolled up, but he still looked like he still looked like a bad. They all looked bad at Gene. Gene had. * beard yeah, yeah, yeah, Jean looked better than he ever did. They all during that lick it up was really good well, lick it up like #2 behind that I think look it up. We got way it was the start of watching them get. Glammy. Well, they had to do something. Yeah, I agree. I’m just saying, like, that was a start. And then I mean, by the time you get to what crazy nights, you’re just like, what the ****? She’s the gloss on that. Exactly. OK, next question. All right. Where did Paul Stanley write the song Love Gun in 19? **** I would just ask this one on the * show. So he’s 7. I know where Gene wrote Doctor Love. Toronto, Canada. I got it wrong. On an airplane flight to Japan. Yeah, they love Japan. He he always talked about how good the * was right there. Tiny heads. I’m sure. He’s probably like, bro, I’m like a giant over there, holy ***. That is good dude. Oh, man, they they probably felt very good about themselves during that. Oh, yeah, except for Peter Criss. All right, pick a number one through 5. 3. All right, which KISS member got so drunk during the photo session for Hotter Than Hell? His face was filmed on one side Ace fairly. What? Maybe didn’t listen the whole question. It’s Paul Stanley you said which KISS member got so drunk during the photo session for better than or hotter than Hell, I can’t read any glasses here. They only filmed one side locked out of this car so he couldn’t figure out how to get out and they said it was. Call Timmy. I would have never guessed that right. Everybody thought, would think Ace. Ace for sure then. Well, Ace got a car wreck in that they filmed, put makeup on half of his face for that photo shoot. I didn’t know that story. Yeah, well, I mean, there’s also, like what, the famous Ace interview where he’s a plumber. It plays Trout exactly. All right. Well, this is your last one, right? Which KISS member had a wrestler named after him? Gene Simmons. The Demon. Yes. You know, they wanted to do the whole band. Yep. They elected not to. I actually met that guy at A at a KISS con out in Dale Tolborg. Is that his name? Yeah, I got his real name. He was, he was the demon for like a while. And then, yeah, but they initially they were going to pitch the idea. They wanted to do the whole band. And I was like, really? That would have cost a lot of money. Conspiracy guy. Why did Paul Stanley wear sunglasses on stage during the Dress to Kill tour? Ha **** wow, I didn’t. Sunglasses are dressed to kill. Third record. Umm. Laser surgery in his eyes? Nope. Eye infection? You know another reason Paul said he had to cancel a show? He got the clap from Samantha Fox. No * joke. God, yeah. I I knew someone that was her cousin. That’s crazy. You know what’s crazy? This.

God, that song didn’t want to stop. I guess it’s telling the truth. You know, crime is down, You know, coming to Chicago, we come on to CTA, get set on fire. Yeah, and Mayor Johnson is like, this is a isolated incident, you . Isolated and said, have you wrote the CTA? Yeah, you don’t make eye contact with a lot of people on the CTA. You said it, you just you stick in your lane and just don’t make eye contact. So I was going to ask you about some of the shows that you’ve done in the past. Who are some of your favorite bigger bands you’ve played with? Oh God, ministry for sure. Where was that? It was a Concorde, oh, New Year’s Eve. New Year’s Eve? Yeah, US fashion bomb and ministry. Yeah. Yeah, that was an interesting. I mean, that was a fun show. The Concorde’s a great room. It is really like, and it was a cool show to be on them. TKK we got to play with. That was for at the time, the 25th anniversary tour. Yeah, something like that. God, that was so. Well, it’s not the 25th anniversary tour. Combi Christ was another one that was fun. Common Christ is really good on record. Yeah, yeah, definitely really good on record. But I hear live they don’t deliver the same. They, I don’t know, but they’re really good on record. I mean, just ** great. And that guy does it all. Yeah. No, when we play with them, they were pretty. They were pretty spot on. Like, where was it live Wire? That was a forge. Yeah. Oh, that’s another good room. Yeah. Hey, did you ever play the bin? Yeah, yes, Yeah, We played there. We played there a few times. Nick was. Nick Huffman was my very first guest on the show. Oh, wow. The funniest guy I’ve ever met. My life. Yeah, I know. They were gonna. They’re not reopening it now, right? They’re done. That’s completely done. Done, done now. I mean, he took care of bands, man. Yeah. Every band I talked to, they got fed everything. We had a fun time playing there. Like I ’cause I was a good room too. The sound was it’s, it’s small, but like, I like sometimes those smaller places when you got the crowd in on you and like, it’s a good vibe sometimes. Places like they’re, they’re more fun, you know, it’s so Nick Kaufman had on his tombstone. Didn’t do enough. We didn’t do nothing because he laughed about that as I said that so much and I’ve got signs of him like covered in like neon paint in this polar sinus is we didn’t do nothing and the other side says we I I speak jive all from the show and. Nick was just the best man. Yeah, he’s a cool dude, man. Like I, we definitely, we enjoy playing there. I was a that was a fun place. How many times? I think at least two. Yeah, two or three recently. Then something like that. First Jason played there a few times. Of course he did. Or she did. And he told you about it a dozen times too. I was with him once. Well, I had to be the host. And that pothead. Jesus Christ, she’s talking about smoking weed and he’s Jewish, so he’s got Jewish. This Jewish liquor he had me drinking in the back of the van and he’s smoking pot. Like what do you call that when you like? Clambake, Clambake. You’re just in there. Yeah, you’re high. You don’t need to get high. Boxing and ****. I wish * baked he likes his weed, man. Dude, that guy smells like weed. He really, but he’s *. He’s awesome. He’s a blast. He lives up the street. Does he know? Wait, who is this Ari Lehman? He was the very first Jason in the very first Friday 13th the kid. The kid that jumps out of the leg of the which was the only scary part of the movie. So if you haven’t watched that movie, sorry for ruining the entire that’s me first Jason. It was even funnier ’cause I thought you’ve done the horror conventions and that he doesn’t get along with the other Jason’s very no, no, no, isn’t that funny? They’re, they’re pretty, they’re pretty stiff on him. Yeah, I came hotter. Ari. Ari has his moments. He has his moments. No, I think he’s awesome. He’s great on the show. I was in one of his music videos that they shot at the Davis Theater and we’re like * really cold, snowy day early. But there were people who drove in from like the Philadelphia. Area in the video yeah, because he’s got a huge cult following He does that’s great that’s great he’s got he’s he does have a following Hey I got another song for you OK right for the same guy. My name is Alex and I’m the king of sleaze. Delta hell to skeleton was my home. Boosing and banging virgins and I have like this app and like asking to write a sinister face song just to hear what would happen. But never write the most sinister thing, yes or no. Yes and no. Yes and no. It’s so juicy. Eat the devil’s . The devil’s say. The devil’s . Is a good interest to this Can we like what do you see it as I’m right is I’m *. He’s actually made these videos. They’re on my page. Hey, I will make it if you don’t have one. But the baby Jesus videos are the ones I can’t talk about yet. I don’t know if I can ever talk about it. I work that show. And so we. Working on that show Jesus and made the nuns cry. Judy had the biggest ***** and I ate a Jewish girl. The devil’s the devil’s *****.

I really like them. And then I can’t believe what happened to them. Management just tried to make them into the female ghost and them. Yeah, it’s the vibe I I sort of got. I sort of got, I mean, I got the vibe like reading through everything that it was just like, is this an actual band or is this again management basically just forming like. A baby metal or another * late 90’s pop, you know, boy band yeah that dogma like the first I only learned about them earlier this year just loved them. My friend my friend on the suburbs, he he knows what I like and he actually got me into ghost and I like ghost because. Remind me of bluish to call a lot. That are they They always gave me Coven vibes. If you’re not familiar with Coven, like the music style, it’s very it’s very yeah, Halloween. Halloween. No, it was in the Hellfire Club reunion show in 1999. Two, 1016. Yeah. And they were there and Rick was he had a thing with her for a minute. Yeah, yeah, I I saw them at the IT was a metro for how I think it was Halloween. They played. That would have been awesome. I think it was Halloween. I saw them and yeah, her name is what, Jinx. Jinx. Yeah. She still holds up for her age. Yeah, I believe it. I think she’s she’s almost 70 now. Yeah, at this point, she still holds up, man. So I don’t know anything about those bands but that like the end of that song. Last year for Christmas time I went to see trans-siberian orchestra and we were coming back on the 26th of this month. But I could hear the end of that like in their. Like they’re big, like ending spectacular things. So eat the devil’s * at Sign trans-siberian orchestra this year. Alex Skoda is a great guitarist and and a huge KISS fan. I mean, and if we could talk about that for a minute, man Ace when he passed, all the respect he got from the industry was unbelievable. You know that Gene and Paul aren’t going to get that because Ace was never a show off. He was just Ace. He was a lovable **** ** and he he ** a lot. He minted it and he talked about it and he did. I mean, he lived a Rockstar life out of anyone in the band. Yeah, like that dude was just, he wanted to be a rock star. Like blew off gigs to go fishing or play cards with John Belushi. This **** is cracks me. I know you’re in the biggest band in the world. I want to go fishing. **** you. But I’ve got Anton Fig with me. So and and and another great. Yeah, Hey, that’s a podcast. Yeah. Fish with famous people. Let’s do it, guys. Well, since you don’t have any shows lined up, Yeah. Before we wrap up with the song that I titled this episode of Meet Mr. Scratch. Which is funny, because if you have to Google what Mr. Scratch means, then you’re listening to the wrong show. Anything else you guys want to talk about, man, just take the it’s yours. It’s your show. Like we ain’t got any shows. Like I said, we’re in a rebuild process right now. We need, we’re looking to get a new guitar or new lead guitar player. We’re in the search for at this point with drummers. We’re we’re programming everything now I’m sort of. Over dealing with drummers. Like there’s just, there’s so and when you go like on like Facebook and **** you see, like so many bands are looking for drummers at this point because you know, when they, because they’re influenced from not showing up and they know that you can’t work without them. So they’re making better drug programming. But yeah, but now we’re just like * programming. * put it in. I just say, I mean, when it comes to drummer is consistent, reliable, sober, Pick one. Oh, good luck. Oh my God, good luck. They’re a *. It’s like I’ve, I’ve been, I’ve been in some, you know, a handful of bands and it’s always like, oh, my girlfriend, you know, my girlfriend doesn’t like me hanging out with you. **** you. And I’m just waiting for like, I want to see the response to this because I’m sure all the drummer’s going to come out of the woodwork telling us to go **** ourselves. So, you know, whatever. Say what you want to say. Exactly. I mean, maybe. I mean, I’m not going to stop. Yeah, I’m not going to say there aren’t drummers out there. The problem is there aren’t 8 bands, and seven of those eight are. cover bands. So, oh, do you want to get me going on that ****? Yeah. Go on a * rant on about a cover. Yeah, I’m going to see. I’m like I said. It’s a tribute band. I’m not going to Saint Charles to see a tribute band. And the weird thing about that is L.A. Guns played out there with Ricky Rockets new band Rocket Mafia. So it’s OK because I’m going to admit it, I like Poison for a minute. They were fun. Watch, they were fundamentalists too in the day, a lot of fun in the 80s. And he comes out with his like super group, whatever you want to call that. And they played covers. I’m like, what the ***? And I like I set for one song and I went to the bar. Yeah, I’m like, I am not going to watch. Unless you’re hookers and blow, Yeah, Yeah, I was thinking, yeah, unless your hooker’s a blow. No, I don’t want to see a cover. I don’t want to see Rockstar do covers. I mean, I’ll, I’ll give it this like. Like Zack Sabbath, I would go see. You know, if it’s a band that’s no longer around and there is like there’s just no coming back. I get that. But like, yeah, do we really need 3 Slipknot tribute bands in the city? Not even that. How many, How many Metallica bands are in? How many Metallica? I’ll tell you one, I think you’re, we’re friends with this guy, you know, Mike Wallace, Michael X Christian. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he, he’s great. He’s an amazing songwriter, singer, and he’s a good dude, man, Great, great guy. But his Marilyn Manson tribute band was really good ’cause they did Spooky Kids only. Yeah, I remember. And that was the only tribute band that I would like be done with. And it’s because they weren’t riding the wave of what was famous. And I remember Nick Hoffman told me once, hey, he’s got his. He has a Twiggy now. God has got to dress like Twiggy, you know? Yeah, I remember that. Any other context, that would have been so weird. But. Dude, just like Twiggy. All right, guys, Yeah, check out our social. Scratch Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, we’re all everywhere. follow up, send me your music. It was a great surprise to see you in Florida. It was, it really was. It was fun. It was great. You literally texted me and he was like, hey, what are you doing right now? What? No, it was just nice to see people from home there supporting. Yeah, supporting a great band like the Electric Car Club. I saw Jackie posted like, I think a picture on an airplane, and it didn’t click. It didn’t like, I didn’t think I was being hurt. Yeah, it didn’t click. So when I saw she checked in or something. I said that I’m like, wait, no, there’s no way. And then I texted her and I was like, hey, are you in Florida for Hellfire Club by chance? And then that’s why I found you guys. Yet she’s really, really. No, I haven’t. I have friends occasionally that go to Miami and and I always miss them when they’re there. He’s from here. Yeah, yeah, she’s got, I got one of my cats from her, so I know. Our Chris Meggs is over by Saint Pete’s. I think he’s a he’s a photographer. He’s friends with Larry. OK, that makes sense. But anyways, I never run into anyone down there. I’d love to. He told me he saw you and I was like, what? The randomness. It’s just weird. Like when when Jackie Good’s husband came with the new drummer comes up, he says, Alex, I’m Jay. I’ve heard like Thomas told me many stories about you. I’m just like, oh, ****. What did they say? I need context. What stories? Specifically, I got a good one once after some show. Scary lady Sarah had a birthday party here once and I was still living in Indy and I came up with my crew and the girl who’s got her **** out in a video that I showed you guys. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, I don’t think I tell this story. Anyway, I’ll leave the one part out about Lumpkins. You know what Blumpkins are, OK? Anyway, I wake up and they say Thomas is like sucked on the flight even though he’s in the room where the Motel 6 in Hinsdale. And. My friends, he’s like, hey, Thomas, she wants some coffee. Thomas points. He’s like, I’ll take some of that. I don’t know how this happened, but there was a bottle of Boons for him in my room. And when you’re over 30, you don’t drink Boone’s farm, so. It’s like 8 in the morning, I’m drinking boons, Farmer Thomas Thorn and Red Roof Inn and Hinsdale. That doesn’t sound like a good story. Well, I left the part out. You have to Google what a bumpkin is. Yeah, I’ll just Google it. Wait a minute. A ? Yeah, just Google it. Oh, I know what that is. I don’t need from radio shows before. I don’t. Yeah. Amazing. Well, hey, it’s no, I didn’t. I didn’t have to find that radio show. Now I’m just gonna take me like weeks to find the stupid show that we talked. I wasn’t involved in the . I am involved in the Belmont transfer on a regular basis. Oh my God, I’m lost. I don’t need to know. I don’t look it up before I play their song. Get look it up. Look up Belmont. Transfer Belmont. I’m scared. Every time I have a new guest coming from out of town, I get their picture on there. I’m like, OK, get your picture by this thing, Belmont. And then I’m like, now Google Belmont transfer. I’m so scared to look this up right now. I’m looking it up for you. I don’t want to know. It comes up to student transfers. Thank God for Belmont University. No Belmont transfer Chicago. Whatever that Urban Dictionary. Yeah, we had Urban Dictionary. That’s right. What is it? Read it. Well, this is just this is switching from vaginal to **** ***. So that’s what it tells me. Well, why? Why is it called that though? There’s a description it doesn’t. OK. The Belmont transfer is a slang referring to the exists to **** ***. I’ve been associated with the Belmont L train station in Chicago where there is a free transfer between the red and brown. The term is a metaphor for the transition between the two types of sexual intercourse, highlighting the efficiency and convenience of the Chicago. Conveniency of it. OK, that was really funny. This whole show was funny. Nice. Thanks. I gotta have you back. But let’s let’s some live shows up soon. Yeah, for sure. Once we once we finally get some check. Yeah, yeah, let me know. Yeah, they get you a fake drummer and we got a fake drummer. OK, so lead guitar players, when I was really wasted once I did drumming and that the drummers like get the **** out here. But you were playing the dress with your ****. I wasn’t, but I was wasted. Oh, that’s, that’s somebody else. I just, I I might have a video somewhere. I I don’t know, it was bad. Dress with your *****. Oh, God, no. But you know what I was doing? nakedgirlradio.com. Yeah. Plug that, plug that. I was doing a DJ mix recently. And it was, I think it was on Tiktok and I’m doing something and all of a sudden my **** hit the slider and like made the sound go away on like oh **** my **** just. Wrecked it. What You can have an entire series going Naked girl drummer, Naked girl DJ. OK, well. I was gonna say OK, so I I told them before in a different show about how like, you know, this is being filmed, right? Yeah. radio. If you need censorship, let me know if you. No, but I was doing this thing for radio and we used to have bands where occasionally the. Fans would want to get naked too and yes and this band assimilation. We were talking about it on the show decides to show me his **** hole but like. But it was still like it was, I don’t know man. Like I’ve seen, I don’t even know. She has seen way too many band ***. Did you see my Turkey? I saw that. Did you see Zuma’s Turkey? No. Go look up Zuma, find her Turkey. Like it’s like that Kamala Harris Turkey, only at Zuma instead. It’s not quite as bad. It’s not quite as bad. It was a little like sexy. You just had to ruin everything by saying that * woman’s name. OK so this is got a big . That meme was so bad. Bush they that mean that meme was so bad and then they made it about her and then they included Trump and he was carrying off the Turkey and like so many * ** things happened. I’m traumatized. People kept passing it. So you were talking about X and I am on X big time. Oh no, and thank you because you. Oh my God. Yeah, for real. X is the ****. If you guys aren’t on X, what are you even doing? It’s got, like free speech, actually. Everything’s sort of pretty much. Rock Grot kicks the **** out of any AI out there. I didn’t believe it until I tried it myself. It is so * good. It’s like you can talk when you’re searching for something. You can go on there, tell it what you need, and then if that’s not right, you can be like, well, I mean a little more like this and they’ll tailor it to you. Treat you like area human. It’s not a chat bot. * weird response. It actually helps you and but yeah, it’s free speech. It’s very free speech. This shit’s hilarious. Oh yeah, yeah, any anything goes. I can’t believe what they get away with. Sorry, but anyone that is hating, OK, I decided to like Elon when he went to Burning Man. I went to Burning Man like he’s pretty much a . But like everyone else, I don’t politically, like **** ***. I don’t care. Here. But X is so free speech right now and like, you can make money off of it. It’s amazing. And Grok is so bad at it. Everyone go do it. Everyone get on there right now, this minute, play your third song. Tell them, tell them that you told me this morning when you came here to set all your gear up about when I told you about **** on X. And well, OK, so there’s a lot on there. Alex had told me that you can there’s **** on X and I’ve been told that a couple of times, but I didn’t really. **. Yeah, I didn’t ever go to look right. OK, so I’m checking out my friend Lee Devon Doom, and she’s been a big ***** ***** radio person for a long time. So anyways, I go check out her page and I’m like, oh, who is she friends with? Blah blah blah. Well, tiny text, you Tiny Texty’s awesome. My biggest show ever. And Alexander knows Tiny Taxi, like a lot of us know her. She’s super sweet, super awesome. I go to go on her page and I was like, Oh my God, what was the first thing you saw spread open wide **? Girl honestly all I do is just open the app and there’s like **** right there. Like it’s like tiny taxi but I did not plan on seeing her open **** hole this moment. Holy **** so I’m going to randomly just open X and see what pops up. Oh my God. Yeah. So X is amazing. It just it like real much so just like randomly, but it was like pumped up woo. Oh, wait, hold on. Is that you dancing on the pole? Yep. Yeah. What was it? *****. More *****. It was me. It was me really. Oh no. But that’s that’s awesome though. But like it’s like X is actually pretty awesome. And like, why the **** are we * around with Facebook and Instagram and Tiktok? I. Realized recently, like because I have a friend of mine, OK, I was on an agency with TikTok and I was doing stuff with them. But then a friend of mine that is a musician that is from Chicago that I’ve known forever and ever and ever decided to get in and like start his own agency. It turns out he has beef with the agency. I was already with. It’s a, it’s a musician. It’s a big musician drama, Chainwax and * like I, I there’s all these big musician drama. I don’t know what you’re talking about. Especially in Chicago. No way. Yeah. Right. Is all these music people that I know, though, and they all, like, are at war with each other. And I’m like, well, of course I have. That’s the scene that our scene is so divided right now by woke people. **** the disagreement real quick. I cannot believe our * scene, which isn’t that big ultimately when you consider all the other music scenes in the world that there’s so much division in our scene over woke **** it’s like. Yeah, I think that’s not very public, are you? So OK now this just made me think of that. I was at Metal Fest out in I think it was in Alsip maybe a couple months ago. So anyways, it was there was this band and they sounded pretty cool. It was a. Fest but. But they were a little more vocal, they were a little more melodic. They were, it was a female lead group and I was very interested. And then this girl, and I mean, not to like discount anything, she said, but it was. Talking about it was a song about abortion and she’s had abortions and she made it very, it seemed like she made it very political. There shouldn’t be a political thing like but it made it really at first my first instinct was like what the **** ***** what are you, 6/7? Doing right but anyways. So and I mean, maybe it was a valid song and I have never been through that. And so it was, you know. It was kind of maybe not like my place to like put it down, but it was really weird and it just, it was like, this is something that seemed to bring the room down or are they sort of ****** with the room a bit? I didn’t want it. Like I said, metal and and rock a lot of times is letting your yeah, oh, absolutely. Sonic therapy is, Peter still said. Yeah, And so I was slash in my wrist. I just write about a bunch of crummy songs. Yeah, right. So it’s like I need to read. I have it on recording. I haven’t listened to it since my initial reaction was what the ****? But maybe it’s a very good song and maybe it’s very valid. I don’t know, I need to like re listen to it, but it was kind of shocking that that was like what somebody was playing at a music festival and maybe that’s. The fighting between the woke and the regular that I’m experiencing when I first heard that I was like, right, but maybe later I’m like, well, maybe this is something I should be paying attention to, you know, I don’t know that she was taking a woke angle at it, but that was my instant reaction because. We have so many videos of the left and the right. There’s over a saturation. I think of political stuff at this point where it’s just like, I avoid Facebook a lot of the time just because there’s just too much and I’m just like, you know what? I’m good. Honestly, I just avoid it. That’s where the ** comes from. It’s been probably 2-3 years now. Ever. Election between Biden and Trump I have stayed away from. I’ve hated Facebook. Like seriously everyone became so negative. I say on Instagram cuz they got Kitty videos and cat videos and all that cool stuff and I can stick to those. I like watching the cat videos. Yeah. You like the big ? The big . Alright, we’re gonna, we’re gonna hit your song, guys. Yeah and we circle back yes I’m gonna wrap this up cuz I gotta show these guys a few things in my house. But anyway, since your fate gentlemen, thank you. This is making overdue fun Yeah, we need to do more for sure. I’d like to get some live shows with you guys and let’s just go out there and yeah, once we started doing some shows. I mean, no, you gotta tell me. I will come out. I’ll make. I’ll make a you try to turn it dirty. I saw your face. Try. All right, this is Senator fan of the MK Ultra sub podcast.

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